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The RIAA has been ripping you off

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Twenty years ago, at the outset of retail CDs, the RIAA claimed it needed to charge double the album cost for the "new technology" CDs. I daresay they've recouped their R&D costs by now. I might even go so far as to complain that I've been Over Charged during the last decade.

We need to scrutinize the tiers of pricing: LP, Cassette, CD, and now pay-per-download MP3 all ascend in cost, but decrease in cost of production. You could even argue that they decrease in fidelity, too (yes, good old fashioned natural-sounding vinyl is still the audiophile's choice). If anything, they should charge more for an LP because it costs more to press. The last vinyl album I purchased was Perl Jam's Yield, for $7.99; at the same time the CD was $15.99. So why do they still charge twice as much for a CD than they do for the vinyl counterpart? And where does that extra money go?

It appears as though the increase in retail price is proportional to the ease of duplication and the longevity of the media. Hence, I believe that due to the difference in cost for the digital media, what the consumer is really purchasing is a ONE_USER_LICENSE to the music, and we should be able to back that data up to the best of our abilities. When I buy an new CD I immediately copy it to an extra CD, and carefully stow away the original. Should I have to pay another $15.95 when the .10¢ CD eventually gets a scratch? No. I didn't buy a plastic disc, I bought someone's music, and I should be able to listen to that music for the rest of my life - in my car, on my computer, or while I'm jogging with my iPod.

The record companies have stifled creativity and originality, forming alliances with MTV and Clear Channel to give the people one choice only. Because it isn't financially viable to create a variety of artists, the big 4 record companies rely on megastars for their profits, but ironically these artists cost a fortune to promote. Santana's Supernatural cost $750,000 to record, and $1,500,000 to promote. Radio today has been reduced exclusively to the stable of songs for which there already exists a music video. This one simple statement has broad implications to the industry and to me, the consumer.

The last few years have spawned a new generation of quick-to-rise artists who owe their rapid success to the internet radio, mailing lists, and mp3 file sharing. In retaliation to the RIAA's jackbooted methods and wasteful marketing business model, many artists are foregoing the labels. Janis Ian was the first that I'm aware of. Mega-superstars Radiohead just released a new album, on the honor system. That means you pay what you think it's worth. Even if you only give the band $5 for their newest music, that's still more than they'd have gotten from the record company. No copyright b.s., no DRM, no headaches for me or for the band.

There is no way to resist the new paradigm of internet spawned music artists. History recalls equal industry resistance to the VCR and the cassette tape, but home video sales lead the movie industry in revenues last year. If a record company can afford to sell an artist's music for $7.99 on a vinyl LP with massive material costs, there must be a business model that can allow for REASONABLY priced downloadable music. Allow for profitable diversification is the only answer, and it's clear to me that spreading the works of the struggling artists can bring real sales without large capital investments.

I think if the recording industry continues to push this new strategy of not allowing music owners to transfer their CDs to MP3s, then they must be forced to justify the difference in price of the various media that the music is available as.

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{"commentId":1313066,"authorDomain":"bondibox"}

I'm currently in boycott mode. In the last 5 years, I've purchased less than a dozen new CDs, and only a handful of songs from iTunes. Instead I rely on etree.org and furthurnet.org: Legal file sharing systems for bands that allow live recording of their performances. If I like the bootleg enough, I'll buy the CD, maybe. But since I no longer trust the RIAA or the labels, there's no way I'm going to risk buying something I've never heard before, knowing that the artist only gets a pittance, and the bulk of my money goes toward lawyers who are interested in suing me for copyright.

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Reply#1 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:11 AM EST
{"commentId":1313142,"authorDomain":"pobox522rlyeh"}

Good article. I'm working on an article on some of the recent activities of RIAA myself. I'll check out etree and furthernet, I'm never seen either of them until now.

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Reply#2 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:01 PM EST
{"commentId":1313442,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

Jack - checkout Amiestreet if you have not already done so. Very interesting b-model.

Bondibox - nice article. I said this before on another post and it is relevant here because you are right on with the license to use bit:

Consider how many times you have purchased your favorite album. There are many that I purchased on vinyl (sometimes more than once), the 8-track, then cassette, then CD. Of course, the industry doesn't discuss how they made your prior purchases obsolete and how the inflated revenues and profits they had while switching from one format to the other was a rip-off for consumers. If I had purchased the right to use a song, as they claim you do when buying music, then why must I purchase it again, paying full royalties, when the industry changes format?
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#2.1 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:58 PM EST
{"commentId":1313641,"authorDomain":"bondibox"}

Polecolaw, You are spot on.

BTW, here are some links for the above mentioned sites. Many of the bands are "jam bands" but there are also quite a few more mainstream artists who are getting with the opensource movement.

Etree bittorrent page (page of currently seeded torrents)

Etree home (where users list their shows and collections)

Furthurnet (a desktop application that shares file sets)

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#2.2 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:33 PM EST
{"commentId":1313709,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

Thanks BB - will check them out.

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#2.3 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:06 PM EST
{"commentId":1313837,"authorDomain":"bondibox"}

Polecolaw, continuing along the line of thought that you started ... technically (supposedly) all file sharing sites & software, like hotline & carracho, exist as places where you can store backups of your files. So if you've already purchased an album, cassette, 8-track or CD, then you ought to be able to legally download a backup of anything which you already own. If I want Dark Side of the Moon on MP3, I should be able to download it and add it to my collection, since I already bought it once, many years ago.

I wonder if the RIAA would like to argue against this, by claiming that ripping an MP3 off of a vinyl album is inferior, or at least not identical to, a CD rip. This brings it back to my premise about charging for the media and not the musical content.

Do artists get more royalties when a consumer purchases a new album in a more profitable format? (rhetorical question for the RIAA goons).

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#2.4 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:14 PM EST
{"commentId":1313851,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

I believe I recall a case where the defendant used this argument as a defense. Unfortunately it was a long time ago and I never followed up on it. If I get a chance I'll look for it and get back.

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#2.5 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:24 PM EST
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{"commentId":1313177,"authorDomain":"MCLiepshutz"}

Bondibox: Thanks for the article. Indeed, the music industry and the Riaa have done nothing for artists or consumers. They disgust me. BTW, thanks for the links, I am always looking for some alternatives to the current bland mix of musical pablum that the labels are offering. I would like to add, Jamendo as a great source of great alternative listening.

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Reply#3 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:16 PM EST
{"commentId":1313711,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

BB - how about a poll or a write-in of some sort for Viners to tell us where they are getting music from today. You may end up with a really good list of alternative sources (unless one already exists on the Vine).

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#3.1 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:08 PM EST
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{"commentId":1315750,"authorDomain":"gregjarvis"}

RIAA sucks.

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    Reply#4 - Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:26 AM EST
    {"commentId":1318849,"authorDomain":"rsloan"}

    Couldn't agree with you more Bondibox. I wish more artists would go the Radiohead way, its such an ingenious concept.

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