CBS Edits McCain's Whopper Out of Broadcast

Yeah, I'd love to hear the justifications and how this fits into CBS being "liberal."

The silence is deafening isn't it?

The silence is deafening isn't it?

Surprisingly pleasant to hear though. :~)

Oh right. I try to stay away from those as much as possible. Hard to swim in a sea of stupid.

Well, McCain just lost Iraq/foreign policy/I'm the better warmonger as any reason he should be president; crying "foul" seems to be all he has left.

He's desperate.

Hi Chris. Thanks so much for your post directing us to a website to air our dissatisfaction. I've done just that.. Even as I was typing, I was angry. I don't like to respond to any issue while angry, but in this case it could not be helped. Injustice does that to me.

ChrisRonk-Followed your suggestion re: feedback link at CBS. Tried three times, but no luck. Every time I typed in the combo of July 22 + Katie Couric + John McCain interview the page closed and started all over. Submitted a letter to the editor of our local paper regarding this issue, but they have a policy of not printing letters of praise or critizism of other news organizations. Sent the same letter to USATODAY and have no doubt that it will not be printed there either. Have you noticed that most of the flap seems to be focused on another McCain gaffe, rather than CBS manipulating the news? Isn't that called 'propaganda'? Who said, "When the media control what we see and control what we hear they control what we think. When the media can control what we think, they can control how we vote"? Although, since I personally haven't trusted the main stream media in years, that's just my opinion. The only thing that suprises me about this is that CBS let themselves get caught at it. I wonder how many other times they, and the other major networks, have done this before and not gotten called out on it.

ChrisRonk-did as you suggested, but no luck. At CBS website/feedback the page closed three times, whenever I typed in July 22 + Katie Couric + John McCain inteview. Have you noticed that most of the flap is about another McCain gaffe? Cripes, that should be old hat by now. CBS manipulating the news tho? Isn't that called 'propaganda'? Shouldn't that rate a story by itself? Actually, the only surprise, for me, is that they let themselves get caught at it. I have noticed that the other major networds aren't touching this story, only the part where McCain again eats one of his shoes. I do wonder how many other times all of the networks have pulled this crap and gotten away with it.

The feedback form worked this morning. They either took it down or it got flooded. I hope the latter, but I doubt it.

I also linked to a story regarding another mistake that the liberals at CBS covered up here.

It is impossible to overstate just how powerful the media is when it comes to shaping our opinions. You need to ask yourself - Who owns the media? What do they stand to gain from a McCain Presidency? (I know conspiracy theories)

This is why MSM is losing its viewers and why they lost me years ago. I don't trust them.

It is impossible to overstate just how powerful the media is when it comes to shaping our opinions.

A common statement from friends I have known that were in, or running for public office goes something like this:

"First thing in the morning, I have to read the paper and watch TV to see what they're saying I said yesterday."

Years few ago, I was a campaign manager for a New York State Senator, when I read a News article reporting on a meeting or rally we attended the day before, I often thought that I may have been at the wrong meeting.

If you knew the amount of edited, distorted and "out of context" news you get from the media it would set your hair on fire.

Today we a tool that the we never had before, and your looking at it right now, With the power of the 'net, and it's instant exchange of information through forums like Newsvine, the organized Media is hard pressed to report the news in a more accurate and unbiased manner.

There is an

(Don't know what happened to that post. Had trouble setting the link, then the text disappeared)

There is an article in Progress Politics that addresses all the comments that McCain made, and it raises a serious question as to whether McCain is really qualified for the Presidency.

One more time.

The link

Lol then he'd go to to war with the neighboring farms and forget how and why.

Gen Y here, though on the downhill side of my 20's and creeping up on 30. I think, for the most part, we know 'what's up'. Not one of my friends can even fathom how McCain has made it this far, much less even think about voting for the man. But, as you say, the important thing is to get out to the polls and put in our 2 cents in the form of a ballot. Taking an active part in changing our gov't is exactly the change that Obama is talking about.

Oh, I agree you know whats up...and believe me, here's one woman who's very proud of all of you.

Believe me Pitts alot of us youngins' realize we cant leave it to chance and elders anymore. Since Bush, there is almost a resentment brewing from the mistakes of past generations. I believe my generation 19-24 will take this whole election to heart and do what we can to take those criminals out of office. Speaking on the behalf of friends in my age group I find they fear America's forgetfulness the most. If Obama wins he will likely take blame for most of Bush's issues. And media will have no problem with it what so ever.

I believe my generation 19-24

umm.. can we up that to 26 so I fit in? Technically, the generation starts circa 1980 i think. But eh.. semantics.

OH, BAjunkie........you always fit in!

Macks: I'm one of the boomers and believe me, we feel your pain. Thanx for the post--

I think that the younger generation knows "whats up" but is easily distracted as well. The last election day I sat with a woman in her apartment, a poster of Bush misspeaks behind her, who mused that at the last minute she found herself undecided - Kerry was a "flip-flopper" after all. She asked us who to vote for. This young woman was the chief editor of her university's paper and responsible for campaign coverage. I was at a loss for words.

umm.. can we up that to 26 so I fit in? Technically, the generation starts circa 1980 i think. But eh.. semantics.

Supposedly we are Generation Y, Millennials or Internet Generation 1980 - 1986 yeah 28 - 22 and then there is Generation McGuire which is 18 - 21. 1987 to 1990. So I was off by 5 years lol. Welcome a board BA.

Generation McGuire? That's a crappy name.

Yeah... funny that... But it's cool. Anyone notice how much more polite it is without the numbers brigade falling over themselves trying to out-@!$%# each other?

Good seed Bondi.

the numbers brigade tend to stay in their home of msnbc articles..
once in a while they venture out on the vine, some of them even become good additions to the vine..

but for the most part they are vile and imature.

Hi, I am a newbie to the newsvine, (signed up on the 2nd? or 4th? of July) and am a boomer too (born in '61). I have only missed one election since I could vote. I always took my daughter to the polls with me to show her the responsibility of being an American by voting, while she was growing up. My 20 year old daughter isn't interested yet. Even with the little bit I pass on to her, she feels I am doing the family proud by my activism. I wish she would be more aware, its her choice now though.

But I do have to agree with you. What CBS did was unethical. They were protecting McCain no doubt about it.

Also, if I could make a comment, In response to the recent posts here. I hover over different seeds to read whats going on and do find there is a lot of vile, name calling, label making, hate-filled words being planted. So sad. I feel sorry for the authors and their literary limitations. I usually don't make any comments on them, except once when I couldn't take Txsmomcrocadile's (not her real name but close enough) ignorance any longer. I had to call her on it.

It is refreshing to see well mannered debate without any negativity. Thank you!

Welcome to the vine dcstone01, glad to have you.

Let me say welcome also.

It is refreshing to see well mannered debate without any negativity. Thank you!

This is how it was before MSNBC took over. If you avoid the MSNBC hate fests, it still is.

Thanks!!!

I, apparently, am part of your "vile and immature" numbers brigade. Although i am sometimes vile, after a camping trip, for instance, I don't believe I'm ever immature. I am new to Newsvine, and I will try live up to your standards and hopefully make you revise your opinion of us.

PS I don't know why I was assigned these numbers. Please don't hold it against me...

I'm pretty sure you can lose the numbers. Contact the staff. I believe you're allowed to change your name the first month here. And welcome to the 'vine.

Thanks-looking forward to dialogue and learning

believer-369603, welcome. I hope that you prove my broad sweeping stereotype wrong :)

Welcome aboard and don't think we don't welcome numbers. We're tolerant enough to embrace all ethnicities here. The bias we have is toward drive by, message board style spam that does nothing to foster a sense of community. We do love to have new voices who want to integrate positively.

Our standards can be very flexible, even tacky and tasteless in the appropriate areas, fun is fun and spam is just not fun anywhere. Check out the Help Group and Newsvine Welcome Group to find ways to acclimate more easily, make the most of friends and use the tools, if you're so inclined to like tools. But I'm living proof typing alone will do fine if you just do that. :~)

Anyone notice how much more polite it is without the numbers brigade falling over themselves trying to out-@!$%# each other?

I noticed it. What's with the numbers anyway? Are they still in the "Greenhouse"?

Anyway, they're new and hopefully they will settle in and realize that we are a fairly serious and (usually) polite group.

Although i am sometimes vile, after a camping trip, for instance, I don't believe I'm ever immature

Camping trips are supposed to make you mellow.

When your acting "vile" your acting "immature", and age has nothing to do with it. I know because I'm 69 and I'm still told I'm "acting immature" from time to time.

You also said,

I am new to Newsvine, and I will try live up to your standards and hopefully make you revise your opinion of us

That statement goes a long way to doing just that.

Anyway, welcome to the Vine Believer.

I meant "vile" in a physical sense. It's hard to stay clean on a camping trip.

I always come home "grimy" .....but I get your point.

Sorry about that, I thought perhaps like some people, you home with a "hangover" ....tends to make one "vile".

Thanks for the clarification.

Oboma is a smart cookie. (As opposed to a Smart "Cracker" .... just a Joke!.... couldnt' help it)

Let me rephrase ......

Oboma is very savvy when it comes to staying away from comments that can come back to bite him.

He has not made comments about McCains age, or his failing memory, or his poor geography skills and has treaded lightly regarding McCains constant Gaffes.

You are likely correct that he is just letting McCain, with the help of the press and the bloggers, bury himself.

That is one of the things I admired about Senator Obama in the primary race and he seems to be determined to maintain a certain standard of conduct in the general election campaign as well. He avoids pot-shots even when they are really easy targets. I feel that speaks a little bit to his integrity and his character. On the other hand, it could be primarily just good political tactics, but I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I doubt its "good political tactics" I think he should put some more pressure on McCain. Alot of these gaffes and issues are overlooked. And shouldn't be. I hope his VP is alot tougher on McCain.

"He avoids pot-shots even when they are really easy targets. I feel that speaks a little bit to his integrity and his character. .....(or) it could be primarily just good political tactics",

It's probably a combination of both.

I think he should put some more pressure on McCain. A lot of these gaffes and issues are overlooked.

It's still early in the campaign. The public has a short memory, Oboma will likely bring up these issues closer to November, when it will have more of an effect on the voters.

Macks is right about the VP spot, it's good tactics to have the VP be the "attack dog"

You can do that here...

Jim, thanks

Oh, I saw your seed J Dent, what a refreshing difference in tone to the seed the a certain KDPGRHI put up 'NBC.....'. I posted a comment on that one. It was needed. I think they were trying to get an angry response going and it backfired. Not only did I say something but a few more people did too along my line of reasoning and hmmmm, not much activity going on now.

I agree with you completely
Can't wait to hear if , Romney, Guiliani and anchors are going to go on about McCain wins wars, the surge and only the surge.
I hope or wish that every voter could see the things he has said and the most despicable, Obama would rather lose the war to get votes?
The man is either evil, stupid, hateful or brain dead, i think all of the above

I think that it is significant that Obamoa is on the news getting all kinds of upbeat coverage, making a rousing speech to 200,000 Germans! ...... they're not even voting in our election, and they want to hear him.

At the same time the coverage for McCain is all about the stupid things he said. And by CBS deleting it from the broadcast, it became BIG time news ............

McCain is not having a good week.

Did you happen to see Verdict with Dan Abrams last night? He did that (very briefly). He said something like, "McCain, be careful what you ask for ... want more coverage ... here you go". And then it was a clip of various McCain gaffes with the Chariots of Fire music in the background. If I find a link, I'll come back and post it.

That's sounds goood. Please do share if you ever find it. I only caught the very first and very last part of Dan last night.

Here it is, you might want to skip in briefly, as it starts with a long lead in (about two minutes in)--

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25806280#25806280

They didn't cover everything but once again I am glad that Dan isn't afraid to cover something just because all of the other networks aren't.

I agree it could have been a lot longer. At least it was a start. I'd love to see someone run with this idea, like you said! But I love the fact Abrams refers to him as Teflon John -- that's how I see him for sure. :)

Senior moments more frequent and the conflict makes him tired.